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#1 19-10-2019 13:48:17

mypreciousnico
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Doctor Who 28x00 The Christmas Invasion (Docteur 10)

Doctor Who 28x00 The Christmas Invasion (L'Invasion de Noël)

Crédits officiels :
- Scénario - Russell T Davies
- Réalisation - James Hawes

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#2 19-10-2019 13:49:04

mypreciousnico
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Re : Doctor Who 28x00 The Christmas Invasion (Docteur 10)

D’une manière générale, à quelques exceptions près, je ne suis pas fan des épisodes de Noël de Doctor Who. Déjà “l’esprit de Noël” me saoule, parce que c'est une injonction à être heureux et que je fait ce que je veux et ensuite parce que ce sont souvent des épisodes tout simplement moyens.

C'est le cas ici. Soyons clairs, le scénario de cet épisode, on s’en fiche pas mal. Ce que l’on veut voir c'est Tennant tout fraichement issu de la régénération de Nine. Je soupçonne ce petit coquin de Davies d’avoir fait exprès de nous en priver pendant un bon moment, pour mettre en danger les personnages, rajouter du suspens à une histoire plan plan et surtout pour nous faire languir.

Car, l'histoire est pas terrible. Alors du coup on s’ennui et on regarde sa montre. Certes c'est vraiment plaisant de revoir “Harriet Jones Prime Minister”, mais, à la seconde ou Ten apparaît enfin, l'épisode prend une autre tournure. En plus, David Tennant nous livre un numéro de cabotinage comme je les aime, c'est drôle, c'est frais c’est “cool” à l’Anglaise.

Un Docteur sous acides, au débit de parole de mitraillette,  moins renfrogné, mais tout aussi sombre que son prédécesseur.

“No second chance, I’m that sort of a man !”

Davies met en place quelques éléments intéressants pour la suite, en particulier l’aspect impitoyable de cette nouvelle incarnation du Doc, qui ne laisse qu’une chance et une seule et le fait que la Terre débarque sur la scène cosmique et se fait remarquer.

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#3 19-10-2019 14:59:31

scorpius
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Re : Doctor Who 28x00 The Christmas Invasion (Docteur 10)

Un peu pareil.

Autant j'aime beaucoup les episodes de Noël de Moffat qui sous couvert de l'aspect festif sont des grandes célébrations culturelles, autant ceux de Davies me laissent beaucoup plus froid. Celui-ci n'est pas déplaisant, j'aime les Sycorax et je suis toujours très client de la dynamique entre Rose et sa mère. Ca reste d'assez loin l'épisode d'introduction d'un nouveau Docteur le plus faible du revival.

La situation de Ten post-régénération renvoie à celle de Five dans Castrovalva. Etrange coincidence dans la mesure ou David Tennant finira par devenir le gendre de Peter Davison (le cinquième Docteur).

Un Tennant qui comme le signale Nico emporte immédiatement l'adhésion. Il n'est pas mon incarnation favorite, mais si il est devenu le Docteur moderne le plus populaire et iconique (David Tennant est le Tom Baker du revival) ce n'est pas pour rien.


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#4 19-10-2019 15:19:31

matou
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Re : Doctor Who 28x00 The Christmas Invasion (Docteur 10)

Ben moi j’ai marché à fond!
Je ne l’ai jamais caché, Tennant est mon docteur préféré.
Ici, je trouve que le classicisme de l’épisode, tout ces passages obligés sont non seulement bien traités (le rapport des personnages entre eux, l’irruption du nouveau docteur, le contexte autour d’eux) mais ils sont autant de décor pour permettre le show Tennant.
Eclestone  était un acteur déjà connu, livrant une interprétation habitée pour lancer un revivall . Ici débarque un plus jeune docteur (je parle de l’âge du comédien) qui nous prend par la main sans jamais faire sa star.
Et, comme on le sentira plus tard, on peut voir combien cet acteur est plus en phase avec la productrice et Davies pour la tonalité du show.

Banal? oui mais sans fausse note.
Bien pensé? oui (la main qu’elle belle idée).
Parfois fou? oui.
Attachant? Oui.
Le kitch et l’effroi mélangés ? Oui.
Avec une âpretés jamais loin? Oui.
Avec un fond plus intense  qu’in  ne le croit au premier abord? Oui
En somme cet épisode de Noël est il un cadeau? Oui car il montre ce que la série va donner pendant plusieurs saisons.
En somme recevoir des graines à Noël c’est bof mais quand elle vous donne un arbre donnant de tels fruits au cours du temps, le cadeau est forcément plus beau que sur le moment où on le reçoit.

6 comme zode +2 pour tout ce qu’il ouvre comme perspectives.

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#5 19-10-2019 15:19:51

scorpius
Nowhere Man

Re : Doctor Who 28x00 The Christmas Invasion (Docteur 10)

A noter l'existence de "Born Again" mini épisode spécial très réussi qui se déroule juste avant le début de ce Christmas. La réaction initiale de Rose manque vraiment à l'épisode...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeV6sx45fkU


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#6 19-10-2019 15:30:24

mypreciousnico
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Re : Doctor Who 28x00 The Christmas Invasion (Docteur 10)

Rien à redire Matou, je suis assez d'accord sur Tennant et les perspectives que ça ouvre smile
Comme Scorpius, Tennant n’est pas mon favori, mais pas loin. J'en suis très fan. Scénaristiquement en plus il a la chance d'avoir de très bonnes choses sur lesquelles s'appuyer. Je veux dire, j'adore la saison 1 du revival, mais ce n’est pas la meilleure. Il y a des choses formidables qui arrivent joy

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#7 19-10-2019 15:38:14

matou
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Re : Doctor Who 28x00 The Christmas Invasion (Docteur 10)

mypreciousnico a écrit :

Rien à redire Matou, je suis assez d'accord sur Tennant et les perspectives que ça ouvre smile
Comme Scorpius, Tennant n’est pas mon favori, mais pas loin. J'en suis très fan. Scénaristiquement en plus il a la chance d'avoir de très bonnes choses sur lesquelles s'appuyer. Je veux dire, j'adore la saison 1 du revival, mais ce n’est pas la meilleure. Il y a des choses formidables qui arrivent joy

Cette première saison, je la trouve tellement à part. Eccleston, Davies, Moffat, leur mélange, les soucis avec l’acteur, la recherche de ton, les équilibres et déséquilibres en tâtonnant.
Pas la meilleure mais vraiment à part.

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#8 19-10-2019 16:43:33

mypreciousnico
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Re : Doctor Who 28x00 The Christmas Invasion (Docteur 10)

Oui elle a un truc unique cette première saison, une ambiance bien à elle. Très honnêtement je l'adore, j'adore Eccelston et si l'on regarde mes notes et mes avis, sur le global c'est très bon smile

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#9 16-12-2020 20:12:54

scorpius
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Re : Doctor Who 28x00 The Christmas Invasion (Docteur 10)

RTD reviens sur la création de cet épisode si particulier qui aura donné naissance à une tradition (le christmas special de DW) enfin avant que Chibnall ne se pointe...

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: This may not be the most professional way to start an interview, but I rewatched the 2005 special yesterday and I just cried pretty much all the way through it. My girlfriend, who is less of a Whovian than me, kept saying, "Why are you crying? This isn't even sad!"

RUSSELL T DAVIES: I love that, I love that. I love a good emotional reaction to Doctor Who. No one loves Doctor Who more than me, and I couldn't be happier with its return. Even to this day, I'm so happy with it.

How did the idea of doing a Christmas special come about?

The first incarnation did not really do Christmas specials. Well, way back in 1965, there was an episode of Doctor Who transmitted on Christmas Day where the Doctor actually turns to camera and says, "A merry Christmas, everyone," which still freaks the fans out to this day. Because you start to question what's canon and what isn't.

For us, it was the BBC who asked for it. We brought back Doctor Who in 2005. I was so unaware of the possibility of a Christmas episode that I did a Christmas episode in our first series, where the Doctor meets Charles Dickens, and it's Christmas Day, and it's snowing, and there are ghosts. So that's actually secretly the first Christmas special, it just didn't go out at Christmas. So we launched the first series of Doctor Who in 2005, it was such a success that the BBC turned around to me and said, "Let's have a Christmas special." They ordered two more series and two more Christmas specials all in one breath. Which was wonderful, but I just saw my life disappear. [Laughs] I was like, oh God, someone's just slammed the prison door shut! But I couldn't have been happier. I mean, it's very different in America. They don't show lots of big programs on Christmas Day itself, do they? Here, on Christmas Day, those are the highest ratings of all, because those are when the big shows play. So it wasn't just a Christmas special, it was a guaranteed slot on Christmas Day itself, at 7 p.m., and that is literally the heart of the schedule for the entire year. It was like being given the greatest gift in British television you could possible ask for. So we had to raise the stakes! We had to deliver a great big blockbuster and entertain everyone!

You were also introducing a new Doctor.

Yes, yes. As a selling point for a Christmas special, it couldn't have been better. What a gift to put into my hands, come and meet the new Doctor! And David Tennant turned out to be one of the most successful Doctors of all time. So it was actually a great rush of energy. And it was nice. The series had ended on a cliffhanger of a new Doctor arriving, and so I could answer that cliffhanger on Christmas Day. So it guaranteed that some viewers would come with it. But think the Christmas episode [has] to bring in all viewers, not just the fans. Everyone should be watching that one.

In the episode, David Tennant's Doctor asks, "Who am I?" What was your approach with regard to writing his Time Lord?

Well, just to exhibit all the skills and power and passion of the Doctor. I mean, it's a very cheeky trick in the episode that he stays offstage for about 40 minutes. I thought that if there was too much of him in he first 10 minutes, people could see the new Doctor and then wander away and go and have their Christmas dinner. I was very much aware that I had to keep people hooked, so I actually hold him off for 4o minutes, and then in the final 20 minutes he does absolutely everything that any Doctor has ever done before.
He's dazzling verbally, he's dazzling physically, he has a sword fight, he wins the sword fight, he brings down a prime minister with six words. He's funny, he's dramatic, he's everything. He's absolutely everything in 20 minutes flat. It's like the finest audition piece in the world — not for David, he's already got the part, but it's like he's auditioning for the great British public, to say, "Come and like me." And I think it did! I think it worked! Aha!

He does get his hand cut off. Did you get any notes or complaints about that?

[Laughs] Oh, none, none. None at all. I mean, it was bloodless. Every episode I ever did of Doctor Who was bloodless, because it's a family show, it's 7 o'clock at night, you've literally got 4-year-olds watching Doctor Who, so that's an absolute policy of mine — not of the BBC's, of mine. No, no one complained, I don't think. The show was having so much fun at that point. And you've seen hands chopped off. It's deliberately referencing The Empire Strikes Back. And you watch it grow back! What a nerve! [Laughs]

You also introduce the new Doctor's wardrobe. What was the thinking behind that look?

In the modern series, it was the first time you'd ever seen another room in the TARDIS, because we'd never had enough money. We always meant to have doors leading off into other spaces inside, which over the years we got, we slowly built that into the show, but that was kind of a little Christmas Day present to the fans. A lot of those costumes hanging up are clothes from the old show, I mean going back to the '60s. Yo can see Steven Taylor's jumper hanging up there, and Steven Taylor was a 1965 companion of the very first Doctor. So we had little gifts to those long-term fans who love that sort of detail. And I'm one of those people.

The main thing was for David to be happy, because it had to be costume that he was going to stay in night and day. We varied it — sometimes we'd put him in a tuxedo, sometimes we'd put him in a blue version of that suit — but really it was what he wanted. Obviously, we had to like it too. If he'd said he wanted to do the whole thing in onesie, we might have had some notes. But for a handsome man to be in a tight suit, looking so good, there was no question that that costume worked. We loved it.

Where did the idea for the episode's alien villains, the Sycorax, come from?

I wanted a race of big alien invaders. It was as simple as that. [Laughs] In science-fiction stories, the spaceships and the creatures are often made of metal. Having done a first series with Daleks and spaceships and space stations, I kind of wanted a more physical feel to them, with faces made out of bone, living inside rock, but still immensely powerful with immensely powerful technology. It was just a different take.

In the ensuing years, did you always have the upcoming Christmas special in the back of your mind?

Yes, every year was planning ahead for the Christmas special. I loved it. I tell you, I am a great television watcher. All my life, Christmas Day has been the biggest day for television in Britain. And so, just to get up that day in the morning and know we had a show on that night was a genuine thrill. Professionally and personally, it meant so much to me. I loved it. I loved that slot more than anything.

What have you been working on recently?

I've got a new show, which will be on HBO Max. It's called It's a Sin. I'm very, very proud of it. Very proud. It's sort of [about] AIDS in the 1980s, but it's the story of life being lived during that pandemic. All shot before this pandemic, so it's all done and dusted. But it's full of life. It's not just about death, it's about the lives being led, the wonderful lives that we lost. I'm very proud of that.


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